There\'s no bendix. The starter gear unlike a car is always engaged
into the large gear you are spinning with your finger. That\'s why it
must be a one way drive clutch. Without the clutch the starter would
be spun by the motor once it started and be worn out in no time.

--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM- ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com, "Brian"
< This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it & gt; wrote:

QUOTE:

Heh, I tried that, and didn\'t realize I never tried to spin it the
other way, I can turn the piston when spinning it that direction,

YAY!

QUOTE:
That\'s a good sign. Since my car was in the shop yesterday, I

asked

QUOTE:
my mechanic/friend/ geocaching buddy/motorcyclist his opinion, he
thought of a new answer: bendix isn\'t popping out, he told me to try
and clean and regrease it, then try starting it. The conclusion I
thought of (it was far out there, and by no means right) was that
somehow the polarity got crossed and it was spinning the wrong
direction. I\'m also working on fixing the kick starter (which one
will be fixed first, dun dun DUN!!!) by using a mountain of steel
epoxy, rather than replacing the entire transmission plate, we\'ll

see

QUOTE:
how that goes.
Brian

--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM- ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com,
"tomcas1234& quot; <tomcas@> wrote:

QUOTE:

You should be able to spin it with your finger in one direction

but

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
not the other.

--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM-

ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com, "Brian"

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
<brainy137@> wrote:

QUOTE:

From what I learn in your response, it does sound like that is

the

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
problem, that gear is just free spinning in there, at the gas
station when I was checking it before, I pulled out the starter

and

QUOTE:
spun the gear with my finger very, very easily, which I knew

would

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
happen because I could hear when I pushed the starter, just a
wirrrrrrr, like the motor spinning with nothing happening. Why

would

QUOTE:
the clutch just conk out like that, I didn\'t have any problems

with

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
it, and then poof!
The kick starter was a matter of stupidity, I had the

transmission

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
cover off and wanted to make sure the parts were meshing right

and

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
everything spun and whatnot, so I stuck the shaft of the kick

start

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
into its mount, but without the support of the other side (the

tranny

QUOTE:
cover) it broke the cast mount and the bushing, so I screwed

that

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
up

QUOTE:
pretty good.
Brian

Ack! Well then what theories are left other than my crazy polarity
cross, and maybe... could it be a spacer that broke loose or
something?? Oh and my clutch is not on the transmission side, it\'s on
the magento side, but INSIDE the engine casing. Taking off the tranny
cover/belt/variator got me nowhere (not that I expected it to, I was
going in to fix the kickstart mount).
Brian


--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM- ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com,
"tomcas1234& quot; < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it > wrote:

QUOTE:

There\'s no bendix. The starter gear unlike a car is always engaged
into the large gear you are spinning with your finger. That\'s why it
must be a one way drive clutch. Without the clutch the starter would
be spun by the motor once it started and be worn out in no time.

--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM- ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com, "Brian"
<brainy137@> wrote:

QUOTE:

Heh, I tried that, and didn\'t realize I never tried to spin it the
other way, I can turn the piston when spinning it that direction,

YAY!

QUOTE:
That\'s a good sign. Since my car was in the shop yesterday, I

asked

QUOTE:
my mechanic/friend/ geocaching buddy/motorcyclist his opinion, he
thought of a new answer: bendix isn\'t popping out, he told me to try
and clean and regrease it, then try starting it. The conclusion I
thought of (it was far out there, and by no means right) was that
somehow the polarity got crossed and it was spinning the wrong
direction. I\'m also working on fixing the kick starter (which one
will be fixed first, dun dun DUN!!!) by using a mountain of steel
epoxy, rather than replacing the entire transmission plate, we\'ll

see

QUOTE:
how that goes.
Brian

--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM- ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com,
"tomcas1234& quot; <tomcas@> wrote:

QUOTE:

You should be able to spin it with your finger in one direction

but

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
not the other.

--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM-

ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com, "Brian"

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
<brainy137@> wrote:

QUOTE:

From what I learn in your response, it does sound like that is

the

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
problem, that gear is just free spinning in there, at the gas
station when I was checking it before, I pulled out the starter

and

QUOTE:
spun the gear with my finger very, very easily, which I knew

would

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
happen because I could hear when I pushed the starter, just a
wirrrrrrr, like the motor spinning with nothing happening. Why

would

QUOTE:
the clutch just conk out like that, I didn\'t have any problems

with

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
it, and then poof!
The kick starter was a matter of stupidity, I had the

transmission

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
cover off and wanted to make sure the parts were meshing right

and

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
everything spun and whatnot, so I stuck the shaft of the kick

start

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
into its mount, but without the support of the other side (the

tranny

QUOTE:
cover) it broke the cast mount and the bushing, so I screwed

that

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
up

QUOTE:
pretty good.
Brian

If your starter clutch is inside the engine casing on the magneto
side then it\'s unlike any bike I\'ve ever seen. Sorry, I can\'t help
you.
--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM- ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com, "Brian"
< This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it & gt; wrote:

QUOTE:

Ack! Well then what theories are left other than my crazy polarity
cross, and maybe... could it be a spacer that broke loose or
something?? Oh and my clutch is not on the transmission side, it\'s

on

QUOTE:
the magento side, but INSIDE the engine casing. Taking off the

tranny

QUOTE:
cover/belt/variator got me nowhere (not that I expected it to, I

was

QUOTE:
going in to fix the kickstart mount).
Brian


--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM- ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com,
"tomcas1234& quot; <tomcas@> wrote:

QUOTE:

There\'s no bendix. The starter gear unlike a car is always

engaged

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
into the large gear you are spinning with your finger. That\'s why

it

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
must be a one way drive clutch. Without the clutch the starter

would

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
be spun by the motor once it started and be worn out in no time.

--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM-

ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com, "Brian"

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
<brainy137@> wrote:

QUOTE:

Heh, I tried that, and didn\'t realize I never tried to spin it

the

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
other way, I can turn the piston when spinning it that

direction,

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
YAY!

QUOTE:
That\'s a good sign. Since my car was in the shop yesterday, I

asked

QUOTE:
my mechanic/friend/ geocaching buddy/motorcyclist his opinion, he
thought of a new answer: bendix isn\'t popping out, he told me

to try

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
and clean and regrease it, then try starting it. The

conclusion I

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
thought of (it was far out there, and by no means right) was

that

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
somehow the polarity got crossed and it was spinning the wrong
direction. I\'m also working on fixing the kick starter (which

one

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
will be fixed first, dun dun DUN!!!) by using a mountain of

steel

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
epoxy, rather than replacing the entire transmission plate,

we\'ll

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
see

QUOTE:
how that goes.
Brian

--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM- ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com,
"tomcas1234& quot; <tomcas@> wrote:

QUOTE:

You should be able to spin it with your finger in one

direction

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
but

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
not the other.

--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM-

ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com, "Brian"

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
<brainy137@> wrote:

QUOTE:

From what I learn in your response, it does sound like that

is

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
the

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
problem, that gear is just free spinning in there, at the

gas

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
station when I was checking it before, I pulled out the

starter

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
and

QUOTE:
spun the gear with my finger very, very easily, which I

knew

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
would

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
happen because I could hear when I pushed the starter, just

a

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
wirrrrrrr, like the motor spinning with nothing happening.

Why

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
would

QUOTE:
the clutch just conk out like that, I didn\'t have any

problems

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
with

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
it, and then poof!
The kick starter was a matter of stupidity, I had the

transmission

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
cover off and wanted to make sure the parts were meshing

right

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
and

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
everything spun and whatnot, so I stuck the shaft of the

kick

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
start

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
into its mount, but without the support of the other side

(the

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
tranny

QUOTE:
cover) it broke the cast mount and the bushing, so I

screwed

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
that

QUOTE:

QUOTE:
up

QUOTE:
pretty good.
Brian