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It\'s all about two things- cracking pressure and location. The closer
to the carb, the less the dry start up. Putting the valve even six
inches away could potentially lead to several minutes of running with
no oil. This is because those six inches of line will drain into the
carb over several days time.
The cracking pressure must be greater than the oil head. It\'s easy to
calculate. Measure the vertical distance in inches from the highest
point on the oil tank to the carb oil port. Divided this by 27 to
find the minimum cracking pressure in psi. Then add to this 1/2 to 1
psi more for hysteresis.

--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM- ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com, "Paul"
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Not to disagree but I found a source for inline check valves.
http://tinyurl.com/ 9r22j
I don\'t see why a person just can\'t cut the oil line and put this
inline and leave the malfunctioning valve alone.
From the site>>>> >
The 695 series is a general purpose check valve that operates in any
position, horizontal or vertical. A great low-resistance, high flow
check valve where space is limited. Available in nylon for general
purpose use and polypropylene for excellent chemical resistance,
positive seal at pressure. Maximum operating pressure of 125 psi
covers a wide range of air and fluid applications. Standard cracking
pressure 1 psi. Seal material: Buna-N. Guided stainless steel ball
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spring. 1/2" diameter.<<& lt;<<

It would be a very easy fix, What do you think?
Paul aka Sporty




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"tomcas1234& quot; <tomcas@> wrote:
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A leaking oil injection check valve can be repaired if the valve
is
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integral to the carb inlet fitting. The ball seat of the valve
can
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simply be re-coined. Just carefully pull the press fit brass
fitting
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out of the carb body trying not to nick the sharp edges of the
hose
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barbs. Catch the internal spring and ball bearing as the fitting
is
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pulled from the body and note the assembly order. Ensure that the
inside of the fitting and ball are absolutely clean. Insert the
ball
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back into the fitting and lightly tap on the ball using a hammer
and
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soft aluminum or brass punch. The spring can be slightly
stretched
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out if needed. This will raise the cracking pressure. Reassemble
the
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whole fitting in the correct order. Use loctite sparingly between
the
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press fit diameters if needed. Run a pre-mix oil and gas mixture
until proper functioning is evident by a decrease in the oil tank
level with usage.

--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM- ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com, "Paul"
< onefastwienerdog@& gt; wrote:
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The oil injection check valve is leaking oil into the carb, My
wifes
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Zip does the same thing, If it sits long I have to drain the
carb
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that
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is full of oil and then start it, I\'m looking into getting a
inline
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valve to solve the problem,
Paul aka Sporty



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duy_q_bui@ wrote:
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Yes a lot of smoke when it start.
-------------------- -------------------- ----
Duy Q. Bui
(c) 617-331-3603

-----Original Message-----
From: "Paul" < onefastwienerdog@& gt;

Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:27:39
To:Strada-Vento-QJ- UM- ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com
Subject: [Strada-Vento-QJ-UM- ChineseScooters] Re: vento wont
start
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if left for 2 or more days not used
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Will it smoke like crazy when it starts?
Sporty

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duy_q_bui@ wrote:
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How do you fix this. I have the same issue with my vento
triton. It
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have a very hard time starting after one or two day without
starting
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Duy Q. Bui
(c) 617-331-3603

-----Original Message-----
From: "Paul" < onefastwienerdog@& gt;

Date: Thu, 04 Oct 2007 01:12:57
To:Strada-Vento-
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QJ-UM- ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com
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Subject: [Strada-Vento-QJ-UM- ChineseScooters] Re: vento
wont
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start
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if left for 2 or more days not used
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The float valve in the bowl of carb is sticking/not
adjusted
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right.
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Paul aka Sporty

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"matthew" <matinwi@> wrote:
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If I leave my vento for more that a day with out
starting it
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I
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have to
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help it by using a little starting fluid ....why am I
loosing my
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fuel
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in the carb ??????anyone else have this problem






 
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2003 Triton r3


--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM- ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com, "cc50_1000& quot; < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it & gt; wrote:
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What model?


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If I leave my vento for more that a day with out starting it I
have to
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help it by using a little starting fluid ....why am I loosing my
fuel
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in the carb ??????anyone else have this problem


 
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well Ive tried all those things but, as far as being certian ..what I
did was let it sit for a week now and tried to start it nothing I
drilled a small hole in the air box if I just squirt a small amount of
starting fluid in the hole the scooter fires right up no gas ....and I
found no sign of the float sticking






--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM- ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com, "tomcas1234& quot;
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Are you certain you are loosing fuel in the carb and if so how are
you
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determining this?

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If I leave my vento for more that a day with out starting it I have
to
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help it by using a little starting fluid ....why am I loosing my
fuel
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in the carb ??????anyone else have this problem


 
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I\'m not sure what you mean when you say you have tried all those
things. From your response it seems you have not determined if there
is fuel in the bowl but instead you are assuming that. Begin by
checking your assumption. Open the bowl drain and see what comes out.

--- In Strada-Vento-QJ-UM- ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com, "matthew"
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well Ive tried all those things but, as far as being certian ..what
I
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did was let it sit for a week now and tried to start it nothing I
drilled a small hole in the air box if I just squirt a small amount
of
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starting fluid in the hole the scooter fires right up no
gas ....and I
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found no sign of the float sticking






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ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com, "tomcas1234& quot;
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<tomcas@> wrote:
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Are you certain you are loosing fuel in the carb and if so how
are
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you
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determining this?

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ChineseScooters@yaho ogroups.com, "matthew"
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<matinwi@> wrote:
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If I leave my vento for more that a day with out starting it I
have
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to
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help it by using a little starting fluid ....why am I loosing
my
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fuel
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in the carb ??????anyone else have this problem



 
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